tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.comments2010-03-05T04:23:01.895-08:00Smoky McGee and Other Such Things (LOST Blog)Joshua Boekehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00581376557055797131noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-869210258098334082010-03-05T04:23:01.895-08:002010-03-05T04:23:01.895-08:00JB, I need your help shedding some light on the sm...JB, I need your help shedding some light on the smoke monster. At one point I thought he was all bad..now I don't know what to think. Help!Henrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-8181318250031930562010-02-27T20:45:56.529-08:002010-02-27T20:45:56.529-08:00I've read stories of what it was like for the ...I've read stories of what it was like for the Trojans to surrender Sparta... men women and babes in armor were taken, plundered, all was lost, houses were burned.. villags - razed to the ground. Such sorrow as that is the feeling deep within my heart upon being the Smoky McGee blog is down. <br /><br />If it is true the blog is dead..<br />Tonight, let's drink to the 'Smokey McGee's blog's honor - for the memories -<br /><br />and let's wake him to God.. and hope the Blog gets to heaven.. at least an hour before the devil finds out he's dead.Benjamin Buttonhttp://www.benjaminbutton.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-53043047057065563052010-02-21T18:24:47.012-08:002010-02-21T18:24:47.012-08:00u alriight. maybe i'll fill in and write about...u alriight. maybe i'll fill in and write about episodes.. and then u can regain your strength. (i was jk with the either u want this or you don't comment - that was triple H from a WWF tryout on MTV dude lmao.. i pulled that quote from a wrestler.. he's wrong.. )Vulgus vult decipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041004801602492211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-14451747854464776472010-02-14T21:46:50.652-08:002010-02-14T21:46:50.652-08:00Interesting theory Dr. McGrath, though I don't...Interesting theory Dr. McGrath, though I don't know how convinced I am by it. That Valentine's Day card is disturbing to be sure, but would someone really become suicidal over it? Maybe the writer who introduced the characters to begin with (who undoubtedly LOST his/her job as a result), but beyond that I don't think the agony that was Nikki and Paulo would drive a God-like being such as Jacob to contemplate ending it all. It could be though that Smoky was so angry at Jacob for "bringing" Nikki and Paulo to the island that he set out to orchestrate his demise, now THAT would be plausible.<br /><br />@Apos: I think the idea that Ben was the first person who Smoky could manipulate into killing Jacob doesn't explain everything. You're thinking in terms of the people CURRENTLY on the island, but what about the however many people who came before them? Presumably Jacob and Smoky have been on this island for hundreds if not thousands of years. In that time I find it hard to believe that he couldn't manipulate or intimidate someone into doing his dirty work. There has to be a specific set of circumstances that make this particular situation unique, i.e. the "loophole".Joshua Boekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581376557055797131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-61776824830792165002010-02-14T20:48:42.951-08:002010-02-14T20:48:42.951-08:00I don't think it "had" to be Ben to ...I don't think it "had" to be Ben to kill Jacob. I just think Smoky used it as his loophole because he knew Ben was the only one that was broken enough to actually carry out the murder. The "others" were too faithful to Jacob to kill him, regular passengers would not carry out the hit, and the new passengers were Jacob's body guards. I think it just came down to ability, Smoky knew that Ben was invested emotionally with all that had happened to him and the fact that his "daughter" told him to do whatever Locke said. <br /><br />I'm also not exactly convinced of the note yet. Seeing as Dogen and old Lennon have lied about everything else so far I highly doubt that he would actually tell Hurley what was on the paper.Aposhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766546551480400849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-27417405811265573832010-02-14T20:08:05.412-08:002010-02-14T20:08:05.412-08:00I think the loophole was that the smoke monster se...I think the loophole was that the smoke monster sent Jacob <a href="http://nikkistafford.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-love-you-more-than-nikki-and-paulo.html" rel="nofollow">this Valentine's Day card</a> through Ben, thus causing Jacob to be willing to die...James F. McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02561146722461747647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-17772814864321601692010-02-14T18:29:24.132-08:002010-02-14T18:29:24.132-08:00I think I might make a new post exploring the issu...I think I might make a new post exploring the issue that Rob brought up about the "loophole" that allowed Ben to kill Jacob; I think it is a very interesting question, and one that will prove essential to how the show plays out. <br /><br />To Jacob sending Sayid to the temple: if you recall the note said that "if you're friend there dies then we're all in a lot of trouble." Clearly Jacob sent Sayid to the temple to be cured, but the note seems to imply that he never intended for him to actually die. When Sayid died it might have thrown off whatever plan Jacob had for him (perhaps resulting in him being "claimed", an outcome that Jacob was trying to avoid by sending him to the temple in the first place), though we don't know that for sure. I don't think Dogen knew what would happen as a result of the water changing colors (Lennon says "what happened?" as if they had never seen anything like it before) and if you remember at that point in the story Dogen didn't even know that Jacob had been killed, he found that out from Hurley later. I don't think using the spring is what "infected" Sayid, it was the fact that he was not able to be saved by spring that led to him being infected/claimed.Joshua Boekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581376557055797131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-55752847796172842802010-02-14T17:35:46.620-08:002010-02-14T17:35:46.620-08:00Lol, I'd definitely be down for a weekly Q and...Lol, I'd definitely be down for a weekly Q and A section. You raise some interesting questions with the summoning issue. I was also joking about the Atlantis comment simply because they showed the island underwater in S06E01. <br /><br />This next comment would be more aimed towards Rob's post. Jacob has shown his healing ability before when he brought John Locke back to life, so I'm not exactly sure his healing "claims" individuals. As for the spring itself, I believe the color directly reflects Jacob's death, but I don't think Dogen would risk using it if he believed he would be "claimed" or "infected." I also think Jacob would have more sense than to send Sayid to the temple knowing he would be "claimed" by the smoke monster. Unless of course Jacob is using Sayid as a pawn for a bigger purpose.Aposhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766546551480400849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-1905969331005296622010-02-14T17:21:10.174-08:002010-02-14T17:21:10.174-08:00Simply put, I'm a fan. Keep the additions comi...Simply put, I'm a fan. Keep the additions coming.Aposhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766546551480400849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-81512484286622589292010-02-14T01:08:06.630-08:002010-02-14T01:08:06.630-08:00Maybe Jacob can claim people as well, and maybe Be...Maybe Jacob can claim people as well, and maybe Ben's healing was as a result of Jacob's life force entering him, hence Ben's authority over the smoke monster and his ability to summon him, which might also explain the "loophole" that being: the only person capable of killing Jacob is Jacob himself or in this case someone who is filled with his essence. The reason maybe they are concerned about Sayid being "infected" is because the water color could represent whose essence is doing the "claiming". If it's always been clear (Jacob's essence) than it would certainly be an unknown when they walked in and saw it brownish, but being the only way in which they knew to heal someone they took that chance since it was imperative that those on the list survive. Once the "claiming" happened and their hunch was realized (smoky's essence) they had to go to plan b: better to lose someone off the list than to have an "infected" among them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-702963370936697612010-02-14T00:59:58.552-08:002010-02-14T00:59:58.552-08:00nice nice.
if u keep it up and work hard at it im ...nice nice.<br />if u keep it up and work hard at it im sure the producer will stop byVulgus vult decipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041004801602492211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-49455186725193551222010-02-14T00:59:19.454-08:002010-02-14T00:59:19.454-08:00hey
that smoke thing is pretty kick ass.
nicehey<br />that smoke thing is pretty kick ass.<br />niceVulgus vult decipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041004801602492211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-23052273437157344082010-02-14T00:40:37.218-08:002010-02-14T00:40:37.218-08:00This might be too obvious, but it's clear that...This might be too obvious, but it's clear that the Lennon character is a blatant John Lennon look alike from his hippie days, complete with round-rimmed glasses. And the first thing anyone thinks of when they think of John Lennon is his enduring masterpiece "Imagine" in which he speaks of imagining there is no heaven or hell (among other things), maybe there's something there in the lyrics, hence the purgatory theory (it aint heaven or hell), hence references to making atonement, hence ben saying he was to be judged, hence folks being claimed, hence smoky wanting to go home (heaven or hell perhaps?), hence a jacob possessed (or smoky possessed?) jack's dad named "Christian" serving as a spiritual adviser of sorts.<br /><br />Also it seems to be implied, that since smoky went through all this trouble to manipulate Ben that for some reason only Ben could actually kill Jacob maybe because he was "claimed/infected", otherwise he could have just convinced any old chap in all the hundreds or thousands of years prior to kill Jacob who doesn't seem capable of putting up any resistance. <br /><br />Anyway I'll leave you with the lyrics to "Imagine":<br /><br />-Imagine there's no Heaven <br />It's easy if you try <br />No hell below us <br />Above us only sky <br />Imagine all the people <br />Living for today <br /><br />Imagine there's no countries <br />It isn't hard to do <br />Nothing to kill or die for <br />And no religion too <br />Imagine all the people <br />Living life in peace <br /><br />You may say that I'm a dreamer <br />But I'm not the only one <br />I hope someday you'll join us <br />And the world will be as one <br /><br />Imagine no possessions <br />I wonder if you can <br />No need for greed or hunger <br />A brotherhood of man <br />Imagine all the people <br />Sharing all the world <br /><br />You may say that I'm a dreamer <br />But I'm not the only one <br />I hope someday you'll join us <br />And the world will live as oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-77484883116277043092010-02-13T22:10:04.323-08:002010-02-13T22:10:04.323-08:00The way the whole Jacob vs. Smoky thing played out...The way the whole Jacob vs. Smoky thing played out really struck me as very Narnian. It was like Aslan (jacob) being killed by the witch (smoky), I know smoky didn't technically kill him but he manipulated Benjamin who's self pity reminded me strikingly of Edmund who was instrumental in securing Aslans murder. The way Jacob almost seemed to welcome his death with a knowing grin. When I saw Jacob come out of the jungle and approach Hurley I was honestly expecting him to start talking of a "deeper magic" which supersedes the laws of the island as smoky knows them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-66888399889837152722010-02-13T08:43:52.900-08:002010-02-13T08:43:52.900-08:00thats awesomethats awesomeVulgus vult decipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041004801602492211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-29153842912737845672010-02-12T21:52:36.952-08:002010-02-12T21:52:36.952-08:00Very profound commentary Mr. Demarko. The random ...Very profound commentary Mr. Demarko. The random Shakespeare is always a welcome addition to any blog worth it's salt. You might know that Mr. Boeke (and his RAM beer) majored in Shakespearean literature in college. You should talk some time.Joshua Boekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581376557055797131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-86401220294613183392010-02-12T19:21:32.861-08:002010-02-12T19:21:32.861-08:00Good Evening,
Like my dog sometimes eating cat shi...Good Evening,<br />Like my dog sometimes eating cat shit – there are some things I just don’t understand. <br />(ie. I had a tough time making sense of that episode)But.. “lift that veil over your ears and my words will, in their direct path, light those tiny electrical currents responsible for foresight and understanding.”<br /><br />Anyway, themes <br />1)Kate is “not the sharpest knife in the drawar”. <br />2)A Black beat-off towel hidden underneath floorboard<br />3)Smoky Mcgee is nuts and trying to “kill everyone.”<br /><br />All crazy ideas.. so I sought out Billy.<br /><br />In his A midsummer Night’s Dream (5.1), <br />Thesius remarks on the craziness of peoples<br />in their various conditions. He cuts through the cloudy haze of confusion like a hot knife through butter. <br />I forget who the character is that keeps liking a failed relationship one.. but o well.<br /><br /><br /><br />“Lover’s and madmen, have such seething brains,<br />Such shaping fantasies that apprehend<br />More than cool reason ever comprehends.<br />The lunactic, the lover, and the poet<br />Are of imagination all copact.<br />One sees more devils than vast hell shall hold.<br />That is the madmen. The lover, all as frantic,<br />Sees Helen’s heauty in a brow of Egypt.<br />The poet’s eye, in a fine frenzy rolling,<br />Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven;<br />And as imagination bodies forth<br />The Forms of things unknonown, the poet’s pen<br />Turns them into shapes and gives to airy nothing<br />A local habitation and a name.<br />Such tricks hath strong imagination<br />That, if it would but apprehend some joy,<br />It comprehends some bringer of that joy;<br />Or in the night, imaginging some fear, <br />How easy is a bush supposed a bear!"<br /><br /><br />bee.. yahhhVulgus vult decipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041004801602492211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-44626064543769047222010-02-12T18:20:23.535-08:002010-02-12T18:20:23.535-08:00Good evening.
With words of eloquence that will pr...Good evening.<br />With words of eloquence that will promote the sighs of longing – I will offer clues to the ideas that now lie hidden within the sequence of events you described.<br />My mistress to help me reveal these hidden themes is Fear + Trembling (Soren’s book I wrote a paper on)– which, now lying beside me, just whispered sweet something’s in my ear as I caressed her pages. She spoke of Abraham: “I cannot understand him.. I can learn nothing from him but be amazed.” So too seem the scenes in LOST, perhaps the theme being events so absurd must be expected – but like God guaranteeing providence to Abraham after his first born was sacrificed – you must have faith in the absurd and know LOST’s odd scenes will turn around to make sense (bit of a stretch I know, but screw it, I have to bring something to the blog party)<br /><br />As for the wisdom of Bill Shakespeare and words from him I can pore forth like RAM Beer from a nice frothy Mr. Boeke Mug – the monster, a Mr. Smoky Mcgee – seems to remind me of Hector and Ajax in Troilus and Cressida. Both had their hearts torn from their breast in battle, and were smote right in front of their own villages.<br />Predicting Ajax’s eventual downfall, like the fate that will await Smoky McGee, and Bill has the character Thersites in Act 3.3 (250-264) remark:<br /><br />(250-264)<br />Thersites: “Why, he stands up and down like a Pea-<br />cock, - a stride and a stand; ruminates like an <br />hostess that hath no arithmetic but her brain to set<br />down her reckoning. Bites his lip with a politic<br />regard, as who should say, “There were wit in <br />this head an ‘twoud out”; And so there is, but <br />it lies as coldly in him as fire in a flint, which will not<br />show without knocking. The man’s undone for<br />ever, for if Hector break not his neck I’ the combat, <br />he’ll break himself in vainglory. <br />…He’s grown a <br />very land-fish, languageless, a monster.<br /><br />Blah blah.<br />I wanted to add “and pierces the coolest thinkers heart” in there but I figured it would ruin a sentence – lol.Vulgus vult decipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041004801602492211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4652146233758482938.post-37529853070686766522010-02-11T22:18:28.987-08:002010-02-11T22:18:28.987-08:00Seeing as I got a shout out in this post I'll ...Seeing as I got a shout out in this post I'll take the initiative to be the first post. I've been speculating and theory crafting on several issues. One of which you jumped on too, I'm pretty convinced that Richard came to the island on the Black Rock. <br /><br />I also think the Claire issue needs to be looked at much more closely. She is said to be "infected" now, does this mean that the stories we received from Rousseau about her husband and crew were in fact inaccurate? Could it be that Rousseau was the one that was "infected" and in her craze killed all of her crew members. I'd say its a good guess. I also think something of Claire's condition has to be directly linked with the fact that she is no longer with/taking care of Aaron. I say this of course because of the several clues we've received throughout the series stating that 1.) "You must raise the child" and 2.) the numerous visions to Kate that shes not suppose to raise Aaron. I'd also like to point out the obvious similarities between Claire and Rousseau: Claire looks like Rousseau, Claire is placing traps and seems bewildered, and of course we can't forget the fact that both were separated from their children. <br /><br />As for the Dogen comment, the possible reasoning for the poison reaching his "heart" could be that many ancient civilizations such as the Chinese and Japanese believed the mind was an essence of the heart (life force), not the brain. I also question the whole Ben never being the same issue, because if being healed by the Spring had some negative effects why would Dogen so willingly plunge his hand into the water. Yet again, I think that there was definitely something about Ben's revitalization that caused him to be as ruthless and cutthroat as he is. <br /><br />There's plenty of other crap I've thought of and would like to discuss, but its getting late and honestly I can't keep all my thoughts straight in this tiny little box, so we'll continue this later. (P.s. the island is actually Atlantis - am I being serious? Who knows).Aposhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766546551480400849noreply@blogger.com